Wood Talk Online - 31

7 Responses to “Wood Talk Online - 31”

1. S. Williams on March 10th, 2008 6:11 pm

   Great show guys!
   Caller 1. I made a kitchen table for a friend that had to be totally KD . I cut mortices (really slots) in the legs vertical from top down wide enough to hold the apron plus a wedge drive wedge down from top of leg. Held top on with blocks in slots in apron and screw up into top. In use for a family with kids as their kitchen table for 5 + years & still going strong.

   Caller 2
   MLCS makes a Forstner bit with an adjustable screw spur that can be retracted after you start the hole.

   Regards,
   Scott

2. Neil on March 10th, 2008 6:23 pm

   Seemed like an odd question about the forstner bit, but I have ground the spir off but for the reason of not wanting to dimple the backside when using cup hinges on 5/8 flat panel. Although we’ve all used a forstner in a hand drill they are intended to be locked down in a drill press. Skee could file the center point off and jig-up his piece down in a drill press, but I’m not sure why you would want to do that.Like you said, router for a clean bottom. Boring with a forstner bit is usually accompanied by an insert.

   As for the knock down desk, a hettich catalog has all kinds of
   hardware to go along with your wood joinery and screw inserts nothing wrong with that Matt…….. old books by James Henessey, Nomadic Furniture 1 and 2 are good books to stimulate approaches to knock-down furniture (if I recall 1 is better than 2) not for use on projects just for thought. The key to Knock down furniture is to look outside of furniture and look at hardware. For instance in an art gallery, look and see what “hardware” is used to hang a mobile sculpture or look to the hardware that is used in hanging glass. The hardware for glass usually has good end cap pieces that provide a nice finished look. You have to mix and match within the glass hardware line but you can usually get something to work and look finished. Knock-down has gotten a bad name because of its association with lower cost so furniture designers stopped the design process in that market. Knock down is a good overlooked niche market. It’s rarely thought of, yet we move all the time living a nomadic lifestyle. Hey Matt…….you know the mahogany…well….got a kncok-down or 2 or 3 story there too.

   Anyway, its about how you look at and use hardware.

   Neil

3. R Forbes on March 11th, 2008 5:49 am

   hey guys great content. i have one comment.
   if you could add the length of time of any audio or video podcasts it would give me an idea if i have enough time at any particular moment, to listen.
   Thanks again

4. Steve on March 11th, 2008 8:20 am

   Forstner Bits:
   Check out Fine Woodworking Magazine for April 2008. On page 49 they review Forstner Bits and there is a photo of a bit from MLCS that has a retractable center spur!

5. Scott in Chicago on March 12th, 2008 6:33 pm

   Marc and Matt,

   Again another great show….Marc I was wondering if you were planning on providing a list of the schools you were thinking of attending. I know of only one in my area and that is American Sycamore Woodworking Retreat & School. The gentleman that runs the school is Michael Van Pelt. (You actually interviewed him at the Las Vegas wood show). I was just hoping on finding more than just a few hours seminar at the local Rockler store.

   Thanks,

   Scott

6. thewoodwhisperer on March 16th, 2008 12:38 pm

   Hi Marc and Matt.

   I listened to episode 31 of WoodTalk On-Line this weekend, and wanted
   to comment on a few items:

   Matt, if I understand Chris Schwarz correctly, he delineates a
   carcase saw from a tenon saw according to the way the teeth are
   filed. Carcase saws are filed cross-cut, while tenon saws are filed
   rip. This also seems to be the way Lie-Nielsen categorizes their
   saws, but it’s not universal, check out Adria for instance. It can be
   confusing…

   Regarding “Ben’s” question about a knock down joint that can be used
   to attach a leg to a table apron, how about a sliding dovetail? I
   wasn’t sure whether this is what he meant with his description, but
   the tails could be cut onto the aprons, and the slots would be
   mortised into the legs. Provided that the aprons are of sufficient
   length and the joinery is accurately cut, this joint should hold
   together firmly. For extra stability, the joint could be glued with a
   heat “soluble” glue (e.g., PVA, or hide glue). When moving day
   arrives, use the heat gun to soften the joint and remove the legs.
   Hide glue is nice in that it cleans up nicely and adheres to itself
   readily. ;-)

   I am really surprised that both of you missed the obvious answer to
   “Ski’s” questions on flat bottomed Forstner bits. I guess neither of
   you had the chance to check out Roland Johnson’s article on them in
   the current issue of Fine Woodworking. In that review, he
   specifically mentioned Forstner bits with a retractible screw spur
   from MLCS. They didn’t do that well, mind you, but the option exists…

   Finally, to the gentleman from Parkridge, NJ (sorry, but I couldn’t
   make out his name…) looking for an alternative to milling his own
   lumber, but not wanting to purchase a jointer. I have two
   suggestions. Marc mentioned the first: use jack and jointer planes
   and a straight edge to somewhat level the edges of one side of the
   board and run that (side down) through the planer. Depending on the
   size of the board, it shouldn’t take too long, and as an added
   benefit, if the board is larger than your planer, you can always mill
   it to S4S without sawing it in half! The second idea is along the
   same lines, but relies on the boards being nearly flat already. You
   could use a belt or disc sander with an aggressive grit to flatten
   the high spots of the board much like in the first suggestion. The
   problem that I have with this is that, while it will work, the
   embedded grit left in the surface of the board will prematurely dull
   the planer knives.

   That’s it. I look forward to listening to your next episode, as well
   as the next episodes of each of your respective podcasts.

   Regards,

   J.

7. Christian on March 20th, 2008 4:24 am

   Protool make forstner bits that have a hollow shaft. A morse taper accepts various sizes of centring spurs, a centring drill or can be left unused. The hollow shaft is threaded on the other end to fit shaft extensions. These drill bits are very easy and accurate in drilling stepped holes and or very deep holes well over 1.5 feet. As an accessory an accurate adjustable depth stop is available.

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