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		<title>Differences Between Titebond Glues</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 17:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The practical differences between Titebond Original, II, and III.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a fundamental question from Jason.  He asks:</p>
<blockquote><p>Hey Marc I have a really dumb question for you.  Is there any real significant difference between Titebond Original, II, and III wood glues?  Is one really better than another?  Thanks for your time.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not a dumb question at all Jason.  Everyone has this question at one point or another.  There are actually a number of differences between the three glue types if you dig into the details.  But in my opinion, there are only a few factors that really make a difference to the average woodworker. </p>
<h2>Price:</h2>
<p>The first one you probably already noticed is the price.  Looking at Rockler&#8217;s current pricing on quarts, we have $8.59 for Titebond Original, $10.49 for Titebond II, and $13.99 for Titebond III.</p>
<p><center><a href="http://thewoodwhisperer.com/wp-content/uploads/tb1.jpg" rel="shadowbox[sbpost-16116];player=img;"><img src="http://thewoodwhisperer.com/wp-content/uploads/tb1-100x100.jpg" alt="" title="tb1" width="100" height="100" class="alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-16279" /></a> <a href="http://thewoodwhisperer.com/wp-content/uploads/tb2.jpg" rel="shadowbox[sbpost-16116];player=img;"><img src="http://thewoodwhisperer.com/wp-content/uploads/tb2-100x100.jpg" alt="" title="tb2" width="100" height="100" class="alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-16280" /></a> <a href="http://thewoodwhisperer.com/wp-content/uploads/tb3.jpg" rel="shadowbox[sbpost-16116];player=img;"><img src="http://thewoodwhisperer.com/wp-content/uploads/tb3-100x100.jpg" alt="" title="tb3" width="100" height="100" class="alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-16281" /></a></center></p>
<h2>Water Resistance:</h2>
<p>The second difference is water resistance.  Titebond Original is for interior use only, Titebond II is water-resistant, and Titebond III is waterproof (well, technically its MORE water-resistant).   So if you have a project that will be exposed to light water (cutting boards, outdoor furniture, etc..), Titebond II will suffice.  If you have a project that will be submerged for short periods or exposed to ambient moisture for extended periods, consider Titebond III.</p>
<h2>Open Time:</h2>
<p>The third difference is open time.  Titebond III offers twice the open time of Titebond II and Original.  So for those complex glue-ups, Titebond III would be a good choice.  As an aside, you might also look at Titebond Extend if you need even more open time.  </p>
<h2>Strength:</h2>
<p>Strength-wise, there are some differences as well. But in my opinion, not enough to justify paying the cost difference between the three varieties.  Check out the PSI strength ratings below.<br />
<a href="http://thewoodwhisperer.com/wp-content/uploads/titebond-chart.png" rel="shadowbox[sbpost-16116];player=img;"><img src="http://thewoodwhisperer.com/wp-content/uploads/titebond-chart.png" alt="" title="titebond chart" width="530" height="177" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-16272" /></a>  </p>
<p>I recently had someone give me crap for using TB III on a project when all I needed was Titebond Orginal.  And then I used TB II on a project where TB III would have been stronger.  Well I don&#8217;t know about you guys, but I am not about to stock three different types of PVA glue just for the sake of a few hundred theoretical PSI.  <strong>A properly-fit joint with the appropriate amount of pressure will create an incredibly strong and reliable bond using any of the three glues.  </strong></p>
<p>So bottom line is for indoor projects, all you really need is Titebond Original.  If you occasionally make outdoor projects and cutting boards, stock up on Titebond II instead.  And if budget isn&#8217;t a factor and you don&#8217;t mind paying significantly more, you may as well just go with Titebond III and cover all the bases.  </p>
<p><em>And speaking of Titebond glues, you can pick up all of your glue supplies and accessories in our <a href="http://thewoodwhisperer.com/amazon-store/">Amazon Store</a>. Its a great way to get the stuff you need while helping support The Wood Whisperer!  </em></p>
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		<title>Clamping Miters?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am working on a set of cabinet doors with mitered corners and I am wondering what you have found to be the best clamps? I am not having much luck with the glue process using a set of cheap corner clamps that I picked up praying that they would work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent has a question about clamps:</p>
<blockquote><p>I am working on a set of cabinet doors with mitered corners and I am wondering what you have found to be the best clamps? I am not having much luck with the glue process using a set of cheap corner clamps that I picked up praying that they would work. I am new to wood working and have not put together a collection of good clamps but I have no problem spending the money to get anything that works like they are supposed to. I hope you have time to respond it would be very much appreciated.</p>
<p>P.S. I love your web site and it has been very helpful and entertaining.
</p></blockquote>
<p>And this was my response:</p>
<p><a target="blank" href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000224B3?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=thewoodwhispe-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B0000224B3"><img src="http://thewoodwhisperer.com/images/vario-100x100.jpg" alt="Bessey Vario" title="Bessey Vario" width="100" height="100" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-9728" /></a>Hey Trent.  I have never been a fan of those dedicated corner clamps.  I just never get good results.  For me, I get the best results doing a two part process.  First off, I like to use a biscuit, dowel, or domino at each joint whenever possible.  This helps keep the pieces from moving vertically during the glueup and takes a lot of the stress out of the equation.  Not to mention it makes the mitered joint stronger.  After adding glue, I use a band clamp to pull everything together.  This is the one I use is made by <a target="blank" href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000224B3?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=thewoodwhispe-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B0000224B3">Bessey</a> (pictured left). </p>
<p>Once the frame is secure, I put the whole assembly on a set of clamps.  I place two in one direction and two in the other direction, keeping them as close to the corners as possible.  Using clamping pressure, I can then tweak the fit so that everything is lined up perfectly.  Sometimes I use an additional clamp vertically on the joints themselves to make sure the pieces are sitting flush with one another (a nice alternative to using biscuits as I mentioned previously). </p>
<p><a href="http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=1416&#038;sid=AFN86"><img src="http://thewoodwhisperer.com/images/extend-100x100.jpg" alt="extend" title="extend" width="100" height="100" class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-9731" /></a>If you can, try to use a slower setting glue like <a target="blank" href="http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=1416&#038;sid=AFN86 ">Titebond Extend</a> or <a target="blank" href="http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=17645&#038;sid=AFN86 ">30 minute epoxy</a> for this.  The joint will be stronger and you&#8217;ll have plenty of working time.  Most times its the fact that we&#8217;re rushing that makes miter glueups so difficult. Hope that helps.  Good luck.</p>
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		<title>Shelf Life of PVA Glue</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>thewoodwhisperer</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This week&#8217;s question comes from Knothead. He writes: &#8220;I&#8217;ve heard that PVA glue has an expiration date of about 1year after opening. Is this tuely so, or does it just start hardening in the bottle? I bought a gallon jug and didn&#8217;t get it used up within a year but it still pours out. Can [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week&#8217;s question comes from Knothead.  He writes:<br />
&#8220;I&#8217;ve heard that PVA glue has an expiration date of about 1year after opening. Is this tuely so, or does it just start hardening in the bottle? I bought a gallon jug and didn&#8217;t get it used up within a year but it still pours out. Can I use it until it is too thick to pour?&#8221;</p>
<p>And here was my reply: &#8220;Hey Knothead.  The recommended shelf life on PVA glue is generally a way for the company to cover its butt.  One year is simply the length of time they will guarantee the quality level.  But most glues can go for two years or more if stored consistently at room temp.  And fortunately, the glue will show signs of problems when it is bad.  So if it still flows nice and smooth and its not clumpy and stringy, you should have no problems using the product.  Here is a link to the <a target="blank" href="http://www.titebond.com/IntroPageTB.ASP?UserType=1&#038;ProdSel=ProductCategoryTB.asp?prodcat=1">Titebond FAQ</a> where they cover these topics extensively.</p>
<p>From Titebond: &#8220;&#8230;as long as products like Titebond Original, Titebond II and Titebond III remain fluid, without drastic change in appearance, they will continue to perform as intended.  Most of our yellow and white glues, including Titebond Original and Titebond II, remain usable beyond two years. Should Titebond Original become thick and stringy, or Titebond II turns into an orange colored gel, these changes signify that the glue is no longer usable.&#8221;</p>
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