Comments on: 61- IWF 2008 http://thewoodwhisperer.com/episode-61-iwf-2008/ Education and entertainment for the modern woodworker. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:19:02 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Mike Heidrick http://thewoodwhisperer.com/episode-61-iwf-2008/#comment-34633 Mike Heidrick Wed, 08 Oct 2008 07:13:22 +0000 http://thewoodwhisperer.com/?p=1124#comment-34633 Hi Marc, I met you briefly just after your Blum tool interview. I asked if this was now your full time job - Glad it is! Couple comments The Laguna Platnium mortiser out of the crate will not mortise into the middle of a 3/4" piece of stock. The Laguna guys at IWF were shocked when I showed them this on their display machine. The table cannot be raised high enough to accomplish this. Did not stop me from buying the mortiser though. I made an aux table to raise the height of my work pieces up so I could mortise the thinner stock. Also it was a good chance to improve the clamping ability of the table. I added Kreg track to the table and even added some air clamps (a la JDS Multirouter) to improve that system. Having just that one dual position clamp was not enough. there are pics on my website if you want to see it. Also, the Dewalt Top 17 Finish carpenter contest competitors were chosen and I made the list. A Dewalt tracksaw will be delivered to the shop on Friday 10/10. This is earlier than the US release but I would bet it is not too far off. If there are any capacities on the Dewalt tracksaw you want tested let me know. www.dewalt.com/top17 is the site for the contest. I have assembled a makeshift combo Kreg Klamp/Kreg Foreman/Dewalt Panelsaw table that I want to use the tracksaw with. Again pics on the website. Like I said at the show, I really enjoy your blogs. Keep up the good work! Hi Marc, I met you briefly just after your Blum tool interview. I asked if this was now your full time job – Glad it is!

Couple comments

The Laguna Platnium mortiser out of the crate will not mortise into the middle of a 3/4″ piece of stock. The Laguna guys at IWF were shocked when I showed them this on their display machine. The table cannot be raised high enough to accomplish this. Did not stop me from buying the mortiser though. I made an aux table to raise the height of my work pieces up so I could mortise the thinner stock. Also it was a good chance to improve the clamping ability of the table. I added Kreg track to the table and even added some air clamps (a la JDS Multirouter) to improve that system. Having just that one dual position clamp was not enough. there are pics on my website if you want to see it.

Also, the Dewalt Top 17 Finish carpenter contest competitors were chosen and I made the list. A Dewalt tracksaw will be delivered to the shop on Friday 10/10. This is earlier than the US release but I would bet it is not too far off. If there are any capacities on the Dewalt tracksaw you want tested let me know. http://www.dewalt.com/top17 is the site for the contest. I have assembled a makeshift combo Kreg Klamp/Kreg Foreman/Dewalt Panelsaw table that I want to use the tracksaw with. Again pics on the website.

Like I said at the show, I really enjoy your blogs. Keep up the good work!

]]> By: thewoodwhisperer http://thewoodwhisperer.com/episode-61-iwf-2008/#comment-32619 thewoodwhisperer Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:53:00 +0000 http://thewoodwhisperer.com/?p=1124#comment-32619 Hey Jonathan. The saw won't be available for a while yet. I think they just brought out one of the early production models to generate buzz before actually hitting the market. Hey Jonathan. The saw won’t be available for a while yet. I think they just brought out one of the early production models to generate buzz before actually hitting the market.

]]> By: Jonathan Crone http://thewoodwhisperer.com/episode-61-iwf-2008/#comment-32611 Jonathan Crone Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:13:35 +0000 http://thewoodwhisperer.com/?p=1124#comment-32611 what is the model of that new powermatic bandsaw? my local powermatic dealer has not heard of it, and the powermatic website only seems to list the older product. what is the model of that new powermatic bandsaw?
my local powermatic dealer has not heard of it,
and the powermatic website only seems to list
the older product.

]]> By: Jim http://thewoodwhisperer.com/episode-61-iwf-2008/#comment-30059 Jim Sun, 31 Aug 2008 04:29:15 +0000 http://thewoodwhisperer.com/?p=1124#comment-30059 Several nice features of the Dewalt Tracksaw over the Festool: The Dewalt saw base has two grooves, one is design to ride in a Festool rail. The Dewalt Track has a splinter guard on both sides of the track. Dewalt will make available track guides to fit multple brands of routers, not just Dewalt routers. The Dewalt has imperial scales. The accessories seem to be more robust than Festools. One plus for the Festool, it has a secondary splinter guard on the saw for both sides of the cut. Although the prices initially compare to Festool's, Dewalt supports free market capitalism, so the street price will be discounted off the suggested retail. Note: I have owned the Festool plunge saw since when it was Festo. It is a nice saw, although underpowered. You have to go slow becasue it will bog down, even with a new blade. Several nice features of the Dewalt Tracksaw over the Festool: The Dewalt saw base has two grooves, one is design to ride in a Festool rail. The Dewalt Track has a splinter guard on both sides of the track. Dewalt will make available track guides to fit multple brands of routers, not just Dewalt routers. The Dewalt has imperial scales. The accessories seem to be more robust than Festools. One plus for the Festool, it has a secondary splinter guard on the saw for both sides of the cut. Although the prices initially compare to Festool’s, Dewalt supports free market capitalism, so the street price will be discounted off the suggested retail. Note: I have owned the Festool plunge saw since when it was Festo. It is a nice saw, although underpowered. You have to go slow becasue it will bog down, even with a new blade.

]]> By: thewoodwhisperer http://thewoodwhisperer.com/episode-61-iwf-2008/#comment-29956 thewoodwhisperer Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:48:53 +0000 http://thewoodwhisperer.com/?p=1124#comment-29956 Just got an email from a DeWalt representative: "One person, while congratulating us on our new TrackSaw mentioned that you can use anybody's blade with it. While we'll gladly take complements, this point is incorrect. Due to the riving knife and the 20mm arbor, you need to use either the DeWalt Tracksaw blades, (a Festool blade will fit too, just w/ slightly less capacity). A "typical" 6-1/2" blade with a 5/8" arbor will not work however." And if I can editorialize a bit, I don't think this is such a bad thing. I know Festool makes some top notch blades that will outperform those produced by some of the premium blade companies we know and love. If DeWalt follows suit, having to buy your blades from them is not such a bad thing. I suppose if we want the increased performance and capabilities of the saw, we have to be willing to forget about the $20 blades in the checkout line at Home Depot. ;) Just got an email from a DeWalt representative:
“One person, while congratulating us on our new TrackSaw mentioned that you can use anybody’s blade with it. While we’ll gladly take complements, this point is incorrect. Due to the riving knife and the 20mm arbor, you need to use either the DeWalt Tracksaw blades, (a Festool blade will fit too, just w/ slightly less capacity). A “typical” 6-1/2″ blade with a 5/8″ arbor will not work however.”

And if I can editorialize a bit, I don’t think this is such a bad thing. I know Festool makes some top notch blades that will outperform those produced by some of the premium blade companies we know and love. If DeWalt follows suit, having to buy your blades from them is not such a bad thing. I suppose if we want the increased performance and capabilities of the saw, we have to be willing to forget about the $20 blades in the checkout line at Home Depot. ;)

]]> By: John http://thewoodwhisperer.com/episode-61-iwf-2008/#comment-29922 John Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:17:47 +0000 http://thewoodwhisperer.com/?p=1124#comment-29922 OMG! THAT IS AN AWESOME BANDSAW! That and the Delta saw were a nice change from the direction I've a lot of companies are going. Noticed that they didn't give a price.... That's good. It'll give me something to dream about until I find out. I live in Atlanta and forgot about the show. Good video though. Would like to have seen more. Got a part 2 or was that it? OMG! THAT IS AN AWESOME BANDSAW!
That and the Delta saw were a nice change from the direction I’ve a lot of companies are going. Noticed that they didn’t give a price…. That’s good. It’ll give me something to dream about until I find out.

I live in Atlanta and forgot about the show. Good video though. Would like to have seen more. Got a part 2 or was that it?

]]> By: Mattias in Durham, NC http://thewoodwhisperer.com/episode-61-iwf-2008/#comment-29918 Mattias in Durham, NC Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:19:34 +0000 http://thewoodwhisperer.com/?p=1124#comment-29918 Thanks for catching that footage! I would have to say the Blum hand planes with indexable replaceable blades look awesome. The perfect marriage of old style with space age technology. A lot of other things looked neat, too. It appears that safety is a strong trend and "European" was mentioned quite a few times, too. All good things. Surely these new machines are expensive since they are top of the line, but I'm not sure it's an indication that prices are polarizing? Why would they proudly show off their middle of the road machines? I predict prices will keep going down, and value will keep going up. But it might be a while before Festool is "affordable." Thanks for catching that footage! I would have to say the Blum hand planes with indexable replaceable blades look awesome. The perfect marriage of old style with space age technology.

A lot of other things looked neat, too. It appears that safety is a strong trend and “European” was mentioned quite a few times, too. All good things. Surely these new machines are expensive since they are top of the line, but I’m not sure it’s an indication that prices are polarizing? Why would they proudly show off their middle of the road machines? I predict prices will keep going down, and value will keep going up. But it might be a while before Festool is “affordable.”

]]> By: Michael D. http://thewoodwhisperer.com/episode-61-iwf-2008/#comment-29847 Michael D. Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:54:29 +0000 http://thewoodwhisperer.com/?p=1124#comment-29847 Thanks for the footage. I've recently came into the market for a new bandsaw, so I watched the Powermatic part intently. Unfotnately, there were a couple unanswered questions after watching it: 1. What is the suggested manufacturers retail price? 2. When is the product going on sale? I went to Powermatic's website to get some more info but didn't see anything there either -- what a loss, if they drum up interest on the product from the show. They should have a place to let people sign up for an email for more info when its available, at least! Thanks for the footage. I’ve recently came into the market for a new bandsaw, so I watched the Powermatic part intently. Unfotnately, there were a couple unanswered questions after watching it:

1. What is the suggested manufacturers retail price?
2. When is the product going on sale?

I went to Powermatic’s website to get some more info but didn’t see anything there either — what a loss, if they drum up interest on the product from the show. They should have a place to let people sign up for an email for more info when its available, at least!

]]> By: Antonio http://thewoodwhisperer.com/episode-61-iwf-2008/#comment-29832 Antonio Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:39:26 +0000 http://thewoodwhisperer.com/?p=1124#comment-29832 I preffer the festool over the dewalt saw but I must say that the dewalt maybe going to find a few fans Because: 1)you can buy one cordless 2) Anti kickback 3) it can work on its side for trimmng (cause the blade is just next to the end side of the machine) 4) You can buy any brand of blades Mark if you have any video of the new MFT extension Attachments I would really love to see it. I preffer the festool over the dewalt saw but I must say that the dewalt maybe going to find a few fans Because:
1)you can buy one cordless
2) Anti kickback
3) it can work on its side for trimmng (cause the blade is just next to the end side of the machine)
4) You can buy any brand of blades

Mark if you have any video of the new MFT extension Attachments I would really love to see it.

]]> By: thewoodwhisperer http://thewoodwhisperer.com/episode-61-iwf-2008/#comment-29799 thewoodwhisperer Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:27:43 +0000 http://thewoodwhisperer.com/?p=1124#comment-29799 What I really hope to do next year is get all of our footage on day 1. Then devote days 2 and 3 to sponsor-related activities. Day 1 will be light in terms of attendance, and my energy level will be much higher. This time around, we were filming on Day 4 after two conferences and we had an energy level of about -2. So I really tried to focus on the things that were new and notable. And believe it or not, a lot of it was bandsaws this year. There really wasn't much going on in other categories. I did, however, regret not getting some of the cool new Jet stuff filmed. But again, we did what we could. So with any luck, we'll have better control over things next year. What I really hope to do next year is get all of our footage on day 1. Then devote days 2 and 3 to sponsor-related activities. Day 1 will be light in terms of attendance, and my energy level will be much higher. This time around, we were filming on Day 4 after two conferences and we had an energy level of about -2. So I really tried to focus on the things that were new and notable. And believe it or not, a lot of it was bandsaws this year. There really wasn’t much going on in other categories. I did, however, regret not getting some of the cool new Jet stuff filmed. But again, we did what we could. So with any luck, we’ll have better control over things next year.

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