Comments on: 28- When the Dust Settles http://thewoodwhisperer.com/episode-28-when-the-dust-settles/ Education and entertainment for the modern woodworker. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:19:02 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Heath http://thewoodwhisperer.com/episode-28-when-the-dust-settles/#comment-48648 Heath Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:30:25 +0000 http://thewoodwhisperer.com/episode-28-when-the-dust-settles/#comment-48648 Thanks a lot for the answer, Mark! And I hope you didn't read my original post as confrontational or challenging you in any way. I was just seeking information. I agree with you that it is best to err on the side of caution, especially since other cleaners get the job done. As someone else said on another forum where we were discussing this, "I don't know if I would want a carbide tip buried in my forehead to prove it!!!" Thanks a lot for the answer, Mark! And I hope you didn’t read my original post as confrontational or challenging you in any way. I was just seeking information. I agree with you that it is best to err on the side of caution, especially since other cleaners get the job done. As someone else said on another forum where we were discussing this, “I don’t know if I would want a carbide tip buried in my forehead to prove it!!!”

]]> By: thewoodwhisperer http://thewoodwhisperer.com/episode-28-when-the-dust-settles/#comment-48620 thewoodwhisperer Mon, 19 Oct 2009 05:18:33 +0000 http://thewoodwhisperer.com/episode-28-when-the-dust-settles/#comment-48620 It could very well be one of those overblown myths that get repeated so many times, people think its absolute truth. Sort of like PVC blowing up shops and never using varnish on a cutting board. But years ago, I read an article or something from the President of Freud where he stated that common oven cleaner attacks the tri-metal brazing they use. So for me, if one pres. of one particular blade manufacturer states that it could be a problem for their particular blades, that's cause enough for me to take caution with any blade. And part of the reason for this defaulting to caution without much further investigation, is because the less harmful alternatives are so easily accessible and work really well. So I figure, why use something so caustic as oven cleaner when Simple Green and citrus cleaners do the job quite nicely. Of course that's just my opinion. The only reference I could find to the Frued comments are on NewWoodworker: http://www.newwoodworker.com/clnblades.html It could very well be one of those overblown myths that get repeated so many times, people think its absolute truth. Sort of like PVC blowing up shops and never using varnish on a cutting board. But years ago, I read an article or something from the President of Freud where he stated that common oven cleaner attacks the tri-metal brazing they use. So for me, if one pres. of one particular blade manufacturer states that it could be a problem for their particular blades, that’s cause enough for me to take caution with any blade. And part of the reason for this defaulting to caution without much further investigation, is because the less harmful alternatives are so easily accessible and work really well. So I figure, why use something so caustic as oven cleaner when Simple Green and citrus cleaners do the job quite nicely. Of course that’s just my opinion.

The only reference I could find to the Frued comments are on NewWoodworker: http://www.newwoodworker.com/clnblades.html

]]> By: Heath http://thewoodwhisperer.com/episode-28-when-the-dust-settles/#comment-48617 Heath Mon, 19 Oct 2009 03:55:13 +0000 http://thewoodwhisperer.com/episode-28-when-the-dust-settles/#comment-48617 Mark, where do you get the info that oven cleaner will weaken the bond between the carbide teeth and the blade? I've done some quick googling and can only find that claim repeated in other places, but nothing really to back it up. The only bit of real testing I could find (http://www.carbideprocessors.com/carbide_in_oven_cleaner.htm) concludes "No effect was found on the carbide or the braze alloy." Being a scientific man yourself however, I figured you would know of some convincing evidence to the contrary. Mark, where do you get the info that oven cleaner will weaken the bond between the carbide teeth and the blade? I’ve done some quick googling and can only find that claim repeated in other places, but nothing really to back it up. The only bit of real testing I could find (http://www.carbideprocessors.c.....leaner.htm) concludes “No effect was found on the carbide or the braze alloy.” Being a scientific man yourself however, I figured you would know of some convincing evidence to the contrary.

]]> By: Jason http://thewoodwhisperer.com/episode-28-when-the-dust-settles/#comment-43648 Jason Mon, 18 May 2009 15:38:34 +0000 http://thewoodwhisperer.com/episode-28-when-the-dust-settles/#comment-43648 Hey Marc, Thanks for all the great ideas and tips. I've been going through some of these older posts and I was wondering if you have considered the guy who empties your trash bin? A few years back my local "sanitation engineer" asked if there was any way I could bag my dust collectors excrement, because when he empties the bin into the truck, he can't get away from the saw dust mushroom cloud. No problem - I now bag the dust and I have a happy and pleasant garbage collection guy. And I don't feel guilty for clogging the lungs of a perfectly good service worker. Just a thought... Hey Marc,
Thanks for all the great ideas and tips.

I’ve been going through some of these older posts and I was wondering if you have considered the guy who empties your trash bin?

A few years back my local “sanitation engineer” asked if there was any way I could bag my dust collectors excrement, because when he empties the bin into the truck, he can’t get away from the saw dust mushroom cloud.

No problem – I now bag the dust and I have a happy and pleasant garbage collection guy. And I don’t feel guilty for clogging the lungs of a perfectly good service worker.

Just a thought…

]]> By: thewoodwhisperer http://thewoodwhisperer.com/episode-28-when-the-dust-settles/#comment-39542 thewoodwhisperer Sat, 31 Jan 2009 04:25:12 +0000 http://thewoodwhisperer.com/episode-28-when-the-dust-settles/#comment-39542 Mineral Spirits seems to clean off just about anything, so I would say yes. Mineral Spirits seems to clean off just about anything, so I would say yes.

]]> By: Matt http://thewoodwhisperer.com/episode-28-when-the-dust-settles/#comment-39540 Matt Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:53:52 +0000 http://thewoodwhisperer.com/episode-28-when-the-dust-settles/#comment-39540 would mineral spirits work? we always have a 55 gallon drum of mineral spirits that we use for a parts washer (the 55 gallon drum is not the same one we use for the washer). would mineral spirits work? we always have a 55 gallon drum of mineral spirits that we use for a parts washer (the 55 gallon drum is not the same one we use for the washer).

]]> By: thewoodwhisperer http://thewoodwhisperer.com/episode-28-when-the-dust-settles/#comment-19066 thewoodwhisperer Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:58:33 +0000 http://thewoodwhisperer.com/episode-28-when-the-dust-settles/#comment-19066 Just a heads up. Its generally considered a big "no no" to use oven cleaner on blades. It apparently can weaken the bond of the teeth to the blade. Just a heads up. Its generally considered a big “no no” to use oven cleaner on blades. It apparently can weaken the bond of the teeth to the blade.

]]> By: JRS http://thewoodwhisperer.com/episode-28-when-the-dust-settles/#comment-19048 JRS Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:35:18 +0000 http://thewoodwhisperer.com/episode-28-when-the-dust-settles/#comment-19048 Soaking blades? Put a towel in the sink. Put blade on towel. Spray with oven cleaner. Turn over and spray other side, turn over and brush a bit, turn over and brush other side, rinse both sides. Done. If you have heavy callouses skip the gloves otherwise wear them. Eye protection is wise. Lemon scented is ok. You could also use strait lye if you wanted to get really cheap. Soaking blades? Put a towel in the sink. Put blade on towel. Spray with oven cleaner. Turn over and spray other side, turn over and brush a bit, turn over and brush other side, rinse both sides. Done. If you have heavy callouses skip the gloves otherwise wear them. Eye protection is wise. Lemon scented is ok. You could also use strait lye if you wanted to get really cheap.

]]> By: joerabbi http://thewoodwhisperer.com/episode-28-when-the-dust-settles/#comment-12916 joerabbi Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:42:29 +0000 http://thewoodwhisperer.com/episode-28-when-the-dust-settles/#comment-12916 Marc, great show. I grew up in Phoenix (Sunnyslope) and recently lived 16 years in Tucson, now I live in Colorado Springs; what a change. I didn't see mentioned, shop vac makes a rag/paper filter cloth that drapes over the cannister of the shop vac and acts like a pre-filter like the stockings do. They are hand washable or you can just go outside and slap them around some to clear the dust. I have used them for fine woodworking dust and drywall dust and they have worked very well and last a long time. They would likely work for other brands also. They have a collar that fits the shop vac brand, however, a large rubber band (very large) will hold them in place on other vac's. Marc, great show. I grew up in Phoenix (Sunnyslope) and recently lived 16 years in Tucson, now I live in Colorado Springs; what a change.
I didn’t see mentioned, shop vac makes a rag/paper filter cloth that drapes over the cannister of the shop vac and acts like a pre-filter like the stockings do. They are hand washable or you can just go outside and slap them around some to clear the dust. I have used them for fine woodworking dust and drywall dust and they have worked very well and last a long time. They would likely work for other brands also. They have a collar that fits the shop vac brand, however, a large rubber band (very large) will hold them in place on other vac’s.

]]> By: thewoodwhisperer http://thewoodwhisperer.com/episode-28-when-the-dust-settles/#comment-11530 thewoodwhisperer Sun, 02 Dec 2007 18:19:36 +0000 http://thewoodwhisperer.com/episode-28-when-the-dust-settles/#comment-11530 Interesting Jeff. I have never heard of anyone using baking soda but that sounds like a very interesting idea. One of these days I might just try soap and water to see if we are all going through all this trouble for nothing. It might not matter what additive we use, so long as the blades an bits soak for a while. I wonder if anyone knows a specific reason NOT to use baking soda? Interesting Jeff. I have never heard of anyone using baking soda but that sounds like a very interesting idea. One of these days I might just try soap and water to see if we are all going through all this trouble for nothing. It might not matter what additive we use, so long as the blades an bits soak for a while. I wonder if anyone knows a specific reason NOT to use baking soda?

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