Episode 27- When Dovetails Cry
September 3, 2007 | Filed Under Blog, Video
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Most of you know by now that my schedule has been a little packed lately due to a long series of commissions. I promised you that once they were over, I would be able to focus nearly all of my efforts on The Wood Whisperer. And now its time to deliver. I am finally on the last of that series of projects and will be done within the next 7-10 days. This particular episode represents a taste of whats to come. With some new editing software, a new camera, and a little more knowledge and experience on my part, we are able to offer higher quality videos and higher quality content. The new format of the show represents what we would like to think of as “Season 2″. I hope you enjoy it.
I would have to say the most commonly requested episode so far has been dovetails. Handcut, machine cut, through or half blind……..you guys love your dovetails! Well, I have held off for a while because I wanted to make sure I did the process justice. This particular episode is a glimpse into the world of machine-cut through dovetails. Even though the episode is 30 minutes long, I feel like I just barely scratched the surface. The devil is in the details! And each jig differs in those little details. Fortunately, there are some common elements to all these jigs that make this episode useful to anyone, regardless of what jig you use. I happened to use what I consider to be the best jig on the market: the Leigh D4R.
No matter what jig you use or even if you cut them by hand, there’s no denying the “cool factor” surrounding dovetails. If you haven’t made them yet, they are easier than they look and it is certainly worth your time to learn the process. So watch the video and find out what it sounds like, when dovetails cry……….
***Error note*** Thanks to Steve and Brian in the comments section for bringing this to my attention. During the filming of the podcasts, I was using “props” for my cuts and consequently was not as careful with my organization as I should have been. Now you see why I use props. lol. I accidentally reversed the pins and tails. My rule is to cut the tails in the sides and the pins in the fronts and backs. I did the opposite in the video. I guess thats what happens when you are focused on filming and getting the right shot, instead of making proper dovetails. So don’t get confused. As long as you remember the rule (and you don’t try to make a show out of everything you do), you should be fine.
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Marc,
I like the changes you’ve made to the show. The new intro is great, the tool tips are nice as well as the other graphical items tossed in there.
I’d also like to thank you for showing the “real” version of the liegh jig. I’ve got the previous model (the D4) and I do like it (though I need to practice more) but it was nice to see you showing the details such as the test board. No other woodworking show seems to show that part and it truly is a critical step.
Thanks again, you and Nicole are doing a fantastic job!
Darryl
Marc,
Nice work on the dovetails podcast. Its nice to have you back doing podcasts for us again. Are the handcut dovetails next!
Great work by both you and Nicole,
Jeff
Is it just me, or did you cut the pins and tails on the wrong pieces for that case? The wenge should have pins, not tails.
You guys have a pool? Great video, thank you.
Thanks for the kind words guys. Hand cuts are not next, but we will do a show on them eventually.
Taylor- yes. ;) I dont recommend living in Arizona without one.
Just like Steve, I can’t help but wonder why you cut tails on the wenge fronts - at least that what it looks like?
I’m one of those nut-bars who are trying to reverse time by going back to hand tools. This sounded like a good idea until I faced my first rough board with nothing but a hand plane. I have, however, thoroughly enjoyed the process of hand cutting dovetails. While these ego-boosting joints are a real buzz to see, the main reason for their use, I believe, is their ability to offer an extremely strong glue joint. End grain to end grain glue joints have no strength, end grain to long grain has some strength, but long grain to long grain is brutally strong, and that is exactly what a dovetail joint gives you – lots of long grain to long grain contact for a lasting joint.
Boy, your beard grows back really fast ;)
Thanks for the videos and keep up the great job!
-Ron
wow, Marc - really demystifying the process for us newbies. I love the new changes to the format - it’s looking so well produced that I’m ready to hear it being bootlegged by DiY….lawsuits pending, of course. :)
Mike
Great podcast. I watch alot of woodworking shows and noone, even Norm, ever shows all the set up that goes into makikng dovetail joints. Thanks for the demo.
Marc & Nicole:
Outstanding work on the dovetail podcast! The closeup camera work to show the scoring cuts and plunge cuts was especially good. I love the out-takes.
How long does it take to produce a 30 minute segment like that? I am not sure everyone has an appreciation for the amount of work involved.
Kirch
lol now thats a classic. After a second comment I figured I needed to go back and review the details again you guys are absolutely right. I did reverse my pieces. Is this a “do as I say and not as I do” situation? lol.
Oh well. Just remember, pins on the fronts/backs and tails on the sides. Damn good thing those were just “props” for the show. ;) Incidentally, I made an error note in the actual show notes.
Kirch- It does take quite a while. The filming was done over the course of 2-3 days, but it wasn’t the only thing I was working on. So lets say 1 day of filming. The editing took me about 2 days. Now the reason for that is because I am using new editing software and I am still getting comfortable and experimenting with different graphics. But eventually the editing will get faster.
We all have bad days
Oh Im not ready to call that a bad day just yet. Making that mistake on a customer’s project…….now THATS a bad day. ;)
Episode #27 was great. Thought the Leigh dovetail jig was too complicated, not so after your video.
Hey Marc very good dove tail video.
I would like to say one thing about a comment you made during the opening. “Don’t let the customer or recipients standard of quality dictate your level of quality”.
But if you recall when you built the armoire with the louvered doors I asked you if you had thought about talking the customer out of using doors that didn’t match. since your work would be judged by others on its appearance. You became somewhat agitated and said you have to do what the customer wants!
Tthats who pays the bills. And that I probably wouldn’t like your other work either.
Well Marc I do like your work for the most part. But you might consider that constructive criticism although hard to hear sometimes isn’t a personal attack on you. And believe me after being in the business longer that you have been alive I have had my fair share of criticisms and attacks.
So to end this rant, Marc don’t say “Well whatta ya think guys” if you don’t want to know what people think.
Terry.
Hey Terry. I think you misunderstood the point I was making. The louvered doors were something the customer wanted. I didnt necessarily like the way they looked. But that had absolutely nothing to do with “quality”. The doors were finely crafted and they suited the customer’s taste. There is a big difference between the concepts of style/taste/aesthetics…………..and quality. Let me give you an analogy. You are a painter and the customer wants a certain wall painted pink. You think pink is ugly, but the customer insists they want it pink. So you paint the wall pink. Your responsibility then is to paint that wall with the best techniques you know how, regardless of the color.
So with woodworking, if you have certain quality standards, than I believe you should always strive for those standards even if the customer would be satisfied with less. And of course, to survive in this business, you occasionally need to compromise those standards to bring a piece down to a price the customer is looking for. But when this happens, I make sure the customer is fully aware of what they are getting……and more importantly, what they are NOT getting.
And if I do ask what you guys think about something, I am fully prepared to take criticism, good and bad. I may not always like it, but I don’t think I have ever responded unreasonably to criticism.
Cool video Marc. I have been wanting to buy one of those dovetail jigs, it’s great to see the ins and outs of how to use one. One of the things I learned in working in a production woodshop is always mill setup pieces when preparing your materials..they are indispensable! Another thing is, no matter what your personal tastes are you have to give the customer 100% of the quality that you’re capable of, regardless of how they want it finished. I cant count how many times we would make a beautiful wine cellar out on vertical grain fir and the customer would end up painting it..or a beautiful set of mahogany entrance doors..again just to be painted. Sacrilege in my book, but..what the customer wants….
Great demo on dovetails. Since I have the Leigh systems, I plan to use your video to refresh its setup….. Thank you
Suggestion… since you reversed the pin and tail setup, please consider redoing this video… your presentation is a terrific training reference for those who infrequently use a dovetail system.
Thanks Larry
Larry. Remake the video? lol. I was lucky to get the video out the first time.
The good thing is that most people would not have even picked up on the error if I didnt announce it. In the video, When I said I was cutting pins, I was actually cutting pins. When I said I was cutting tails, I was actually cutting tails. The mistake is only visible when I am doing the test fit and you see me fitting a piece of wenge with tails, to a piece of maple with pins. The actual process and setup and spoken advice is all accurate. Just pretend you are color blind and there will be no confusion. :)
Marc,
Thanks for giving me dovetail fever. I was watching your podcast at 3a.m. last night(up with a sick kid) and I came thisclose to running out to the garage to run a few pieces through my D4 to see if I could minimize tearout, get them snugger, get some test pieces in the kitchen so my wife would make me breakfast, give me a back rub, etc….
Didnt realize the effect dovetails had on the significant others! Thanks for the additional non-woodworking insite and wish me luck!
Also, yet again, kudo’s for the continued evolution of TWW to you and Nicole!
Hey again Marc
Not to turn this into a debate but rather a discussion, I do understand where you are coming from although you kind of lost me at the pink wall. All I’m saying is that by putting yourself out there with your pod casts and different endeavors you have become, like it or not a figure that the younger woodworkers look up to a teacher. And as a surviving and thriving woodworker and loving the craft what bothers me the most is when someone that teaches or advises the next generation woodworker ,that’s good enough, no one will see it there or even, I didn’t really like it but its what they wanted. Woodworking isn’t like a lot of things that no one will care about in a hundred years if you are good and take pride, in a hundred years people will care.
And when I know something is wrong I say no. whether its color materials or joinery good enough isn’t good enough unless its your best. Put your name on your work if it makes you proud. I’ve never signed a piece and added I wish I hadn’t done it like that.
Ok rant over lol
Terry.
PS.
Still buds?
Marc, I realise it will be PITA but I would pull this video and re-edit the corrections else it will come back to haunt you. I agree with others who have commented on it as an excellent educational resource but as it stands it will confuse those who are new to this game - especially as you go to the trouble of explaining why the tails and pins go where they do.
Hey Terry. Of course we are still buds. I guess everybody has a different philosophy. I consider the door style an aesthetic issue, not a quality issue. I believe that something can look like crap, yet be well constructed. Alot of the artistic furniture I see is exceptionally ugly, but I have to marvel at the skill involved in building the piece. So I suppose we, as woodworkers, need to decide where to draw our personal “line”. From my experience, if every piece I build has to conform to my own taste and my own likes and dislikes, I would never make any money. When a customer commissions me to build a pre-designed piece, I am not in much of a position to change their design. Yes, it takes the art out of it, but I wasn’t hired for my artistic vision in this case. I was hired for my technical skill. And I think that’s where we differ. That sounds like a job you would have turned down. For me, it was a no-brainer. The money was good and I need to eat.
This customer’s design essentially revolved around these doors. The doors were a distinct part of his vision. Telling him his doors dont look right to me would be roughly equivalent to telling him I dont like his hair cut. I have to know where to draw the line between an opinion, and a necessary design suggestion.
And on a second note concerning the video, right now its just not feasible to redo the video. This video is by no means a step by step how-to on machine dovetails. No one should be able to take this video alone and go cut some dovetails. It was really meant to cover the basic concepts and provide tips and tricks that you might not otherwise see. With a written correction, this comment thread, and a user’s manual, I have faith that even beginners will understand and not be hindered by the error. Perhaps when my schedule frees up I will go back and reshoot those scenes. Hell, maybe I will just shoot a correction announcement and insert that into the video. :) In fact, I think that’s just what I will do.
Wow! Tough crowd, Marc, especially the cyberspace hecklers.
You said it Mitchell—a really tough crowd. This is how I see it:
Marc and Nicole are not only running a successful woodworking business but also a successful website, which I suspect is even more challenging.
Is there any room for improvement in their work? Sure, but their customers are satisfied and they are having fun doing it. Now there are times when you need a kick in the butt to move to the next level. We all do from time to time, but I have always followed this rule:
Praise individuals in public and criticize them in private.
Just my two cents,
Frank
Great show!! I have a leigh jig and learned a few tips from you that I plan to incorperate in my shop.
You mentioned in your show that you can use any wax applied to the tools. The problem is that the wax must be silicone free (many waxes contain silicone). The silicone can interfere with finishes down the road. I personally use pure carnuba wax. It is a little spendy, but when you think of the $$$ we have spent on our tools, I feel it is well worth the extra cost.
Keep up the great work. I look forward to future episodes.
Shannon
Awesome Job Marc! Thanks for always encouraging me to be a better woodworker.
Marc, great podcast again, but one other thing that was a little confusing to a newbie. The video seemed to skip the step describing how you determine spacing for each individual pin/dovetail. You showed where the end pieces fit but then it skipped to …. now it is set up and you were tightening screws. Is each one evenly spaced, does it matter or is it something you just eyeball ? Not a criticism , just a question.
Hey Marc, thank you so much for the step-by-step on the machine-cut through dovetail process. Once again, and as always, you’ve delivered a high quality podcast with both solid information and a good sense of humor.
As for the snafu with the tails on the fronts, I think you deserve a little slack. I think it looked kinda cool. What would stop you from putting a dowel vertically through the tails and pins, to support the “mistake”?
Hey Runningwood. The awesome part about that jig, and other jigs as well, is that the spacing doesn’t matter. Whatever looks good to you. But as always, consult the users manual for your particular jig just to be sure of the spacing situation.
Hey You Damn Hippie. :) You certainly could dowel the dovetails if you wanted to. But truthfully I dont think all is lost if you assemble a drawer backwards like that. Honestly, a nice tight fitting joint and a little glue will go a long way. There is still lots of long grain to long grain glue surface and I think you would still have to break the joint completely to get them apart. So although its not the “proper” way to do it, I dont know that I would trash a whole project if you realized at the end that the pins and tails were reversed.
Marc, I guess know you know why Norm never got more specific than the basics! As usual I did learn some tricks of the trade that will make my dovetails better and easier but I think that cutting dovetails with a router is one of those things that you need to do yourself with your jig and your manuel.
On a different subject I am now completely caught up with the T Chisel rough cut show thanks to your link. He is quite a character and a craftsman.what Are your thoughts on Tommy and his bombe secretary?
Good podcast on the Leigh jig. You almost have me wanting one :-)
I say almost because, like you I started off with the Rockler jig and hated it, learned to cut dovetails by hand, and then recently bought a Keller jig for functional dovetails. I may eventually get a D4R if I find myself having to make a lot of multiples of drawers like for a gang run of dressers for someone (and can absorb it into the job).
At first I thought the Keller was the poorman’s dovetail jig, but in reality, its super efficient and produces excellent functional dovetails with the absolute minimum of set up. I use mine in conjunction with the router table and its definately the get r done dovetail jig.
ps The power went out in my area of Los Angeles on Saturday and it was 106 outside. I can’t fathom what its like to live in Arizona with the heat you have to deal with.
Forgot to say..the video quality is excellent….the new camera is really working for ya. The dovetail type details look like Sketchup to me…wow…Getting fancy! Next maybe some animations?
Grest piece on the dovetail jig. I do a few things differently than you showed but that is the beauty of this machine. It will allow different procedures for those of us that wish to use them. You almost can not do it wrong if you read the book, you only need to pick the way you like best. One factor is Marc’s use of two routers and the setup involved. I use one router and reset my router. you did a good job Marc despite some of the comments and I sure appreciate it. Dean Knight
Marc & Nicole… Awesome video… the new equipment and software has made a perceptable difference. Thanks for the T-shirt… now offer a grey one so i wont ruin the next one I order first time out… white and me should not be allowed together… How about grey or navy blue…
Drew
I think some here need to cut the man some slack! At the beginning of the podcast did you see the caption that said “this podcast will replace the owner manual”? Neither did I because it wasnt there! Also, if you pull up the DIY Network, you won’t find the WoodWhisperer because they are not shooting the podcasts! These podcasts are being done by Marc and Nicole on their own dime. They are not being directly paid by someone to shoot these.
As far as the pins and tails being backwords, who says that is wrong. I recently had a commission where the customer wanted the drawers of their cabinet built witht the tails pointing out! It actually looks nice and the customer is happy. Besides, if you cut the pins and tails correctly and glue them together, you WILL NOT pull them apart. So who’s to say what is backwards?
I wonder how much crap the rest of us would catch if we put our projects on a website and had them critiqued by every tablesaw owner in the world? I don’t think I would enjoy my work being disected grain by grain.
Have a great day,
Jeff
Marc,
great show, great podcast!
Just an expansion on a comment you made in the intro to your dovetail podcast. The old Chinese certainly knew and occasionally used dovetails. Dovetails were one of the simpler joints and as far as I know were rarely used as structural elements in fine furniture. Of course there are few notable exceptions such as this one:
http://www.wkfinetools.com/tUs.....tail11.asp
Keep up the good work!
Chris
Fantasic work on the new season! I really enjoyed the new video on the D4R, as I purchased one just one month ago. Any words of wisdom on using plywood in the jig for drawers? Your tips on tape and backer board really helped, but I found I had to put a board on the front side as well. Also, I pre-cut my dadoes for the drawer bottoms, but my pin placement must be slightly off, because my joints did not line up when attaching the sides and front. Maybe I would be better to cut those after?
Thanks again for the great work,
Paul
Mark-
WOW - I mean WOW!!!!
I am not sure there was EVER that many comments from listeners?
Here is my two cents - DO NOT REDO the video!!!! (Yea I saw that you already said you wouldn’t) - but here is the thing. What many of us like about your site and specifically the pod casts - is the fact that you are DOING this (whatever technique or project etc.) and the reality is we do things wrong - that is life! That is life in the shop - you have to pay attention, you have to block out those things from work or what ever and as you point out sometimes it is not easy and that is when we make mental mistakes that as in this case are not easily fixable! But if I were in your shoes, I probably would have played up the fact of the mistake as a training point of “Measure twice, cut once” (In this case stop, look and make sure of your pin and tail boards!) (Sorry Nicole - skip to the next sentence!) Because noone wants to screw up their chance for a good tail!
Thanks again Mark for a GREAT pod cast and learning opportunity!
Finally, a podcast where Marc is using the venerable OF 1400 EQ. Nice to see German engineering used in such a nice setting (cutting dovetails of course). I like how the ease and control of the fine micro-adjust were demonstrated cuZ i am gonna use the same router to make my own dovetails.
The video is a great inpiration.
thanks again
Marc
You could have taken the easy way out and explained that this particular drawer is not narrow side to side, and deep front to back, but wide side to side and shallow front to back. Oh…..and those color differences……thats a design element. Yeah….thats the ticket…a design element! ;-)
I ain’t nowhere near ready for dovetails yet…but I sure enjoyed the video. Keep up the good work.
The mistake you made on the dovetails, and the wonderful way you handled it shows that you are trying to TEACH us not just make a presentation. Great job. I learned a ton.
Thx
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again…
Marc, the reason I love this site so much is because you are a kick-butt woodworker and craftsman, but you are also human and YOU AREN’T AFRAID TO ADMIT IT! No offense to Norm Abram or any other big-time woodworker, but you never see them screw up (yet you know they do).
I learn more from you from what you do right and wrong than all the rest combined. Being human helps us see common errors and realize that when we screw up, we are learning from our experience and that is okay.
THANK YOU for providing yet another awesome podcast. You are the BEST! And a few new bloopers never hurt either! :-)
Thanks,
Mike in St. Paul
Hi,
Been there, done that. I call them fancy fingerjoints.
Keep up the good work!
I know, I know. I’m extremely late viewing your latest podcast. MY BAD! But, I’m
kinda glad I didn’t watch until now, because I usually only see the comments made before mine. The comments on this podcast truly show your impact in this new realm of woodworking education. If your podcast were not interesting, informative, and very highly watched, you would not be receiving the highly emotional and varied responses. After I figure out if I can ever master my Woodrat, I might think about a Leigh jig. Thanks again for always entertaining me and thanks to all you regulars who love woodworking and TWW enough to have strong opinions, which are also very entertaining.
Hi Marc,
Excellent job on the episode! I really like the widescreen format.
Two questions about this episode:
1. One of the best features about Festool routers, I’m told, is the dust collection. It looks like you didn’t hook up the dust collection while routing out the tails and pins. Is there a reason for this?
2. From a production standpoint, how long does it take for you to finish a dovetailed drawer using the Leigh jig, including setting up the jig, doing your test cuts, and cutting out the dovetails with your “good” boards?
Hey Wilbur. The Festool dust collection is indeed the best in the business, but on a dovetail jig, it is off little use. The dust collect of all routers is above the base. The vacuum sucks the chips up as the bit creates them. On a dovetail jig, the bit is below the base, the jigs fingers, and is housed by a guide bushing. There is virtually no way the suction can reach the bit. So on a dovetail jig, the only effective dust collection will occur below the router. I believe Leigh just came out with a vacuum attachment that does just that.
As for the production time, I have never really timed it. But I would say I could have a set of dovetails cut in about 30-45 minutes.
Hope that answers your questions.
Marc: Saw one of your videos for the first time yesterday. I really appreciate your approach of candor, humor and youth to a somewhat stodgy industry. I will try to support you financially so you can keep it going. Thanks.
Norm Musur
Marc, yes Leigh did come out with a vacuum device as you said. The other factor that has Leigh in business is the quality and repeatability. If all of us could cut them by hand and have them 1/2 as nice we would cut them by hand. To most of us the time is not the factor it is the quality. I wany my dovetails to look like yours or Norms (God bless Norm) and there is only one way I can do that and that is to use a Leigh jig.
Dean
One item re:dovetail jigs. The Leigh is probably #1 on the gold standard but there is a jig out there called the Stotts which you make yourself. Granted it only makes through dovetails but for about $40 fee you can get the template and build it as long as you want and it cuts a pretty good eyeball dovetail for much less than the Leigh. Once you make the jig, it does not take 30-40 minutes to dovetail all four sides of the drawer, if you can remember to keep them in proper order.
Marc & Nicole,
I’m still trying to find those vitamins you take :)
What a great show and how refreshing it is to see a professional boost his audience’s self-confidence by NOT editing out the real world experience.
Keep the good work!
Thanks,
TJ
Thought this presentation was awesome. I also enjoyed the bloopers.
Do you think you will eventually get to the setiing up of the jointer?
Please keep up the great job.
Greg, check out Video Podcast No. 6. “This Jointer’s Jumping”.
Thanks Greg and thanks Vic for pointing him to Episode 6. Eventually I will do a full episode on the setup of the jointer. Kinda like I did for the bandsaw. Now that I have finished all the commissions I was working on, I can really focus on determining a filming schedule. So the best I can say right now is……”soon”. :)
Hi Marc,
I understand you cut the pins and tails in the wrong boards by accident. I do on occasion cut them this way intentionally when I want to show them off. Visually the tails are much more interesting to view I think. In order to overcome the loss of the lock offered by a properly cut dovetail I dowel the joint.
Once everything is cut I dry fit everything to assure fit then glue up the drawer as normal. Once the glue is dry, from the bottom I drill a 3/16” hole to within ½” of the top on both corners. I then glue in a dowel rod. The joint is as strong as any but has some unique visual interest. The look afforded by seeing the tails isn’t for every piece but on some it is striking.
Don
Another great show Marc(but I still miss your old intro music)!
Thanks Grant. Want me to send you a copy of the song on CD? :)
Excellent!
I don’t mean to take anything away from your new stuff; it’s just that the old intro was so identifiable.
Well, unfortunately the song is identifiable with several other internet shows as well. Its a royalty-free track from Apple and is quite popular. I decided for the sake of originality to go with a less known royalty-free track. I also don’t think the other song would have been an appropriate fit for the new intro.
Marc. You are quite right.
I am over it; but I do hope to hear more of your funky, jazz, fusion stuff in the future. (-:
Marc, I was wondering what software application you are using for your podcast editing. I’ve been playing with iMovieHD, which has some limits but the ease of use has been a real time saver for my limited videos.
I will definitely jam it out again in the future Grant. No worries there. :)
CAM, I am currently using Final Cut Express. You can find out more about my setup on the About page: http://thewoodwhisperer.com/about
Man, you can grow a beard in between 20 second segments!!!!! Impressive
Great videos! I was turned onto your site by one of my fellow radio controlled model airplane enthusiests. The title of the episode was great, although you missed your chance to use a “sample” from Prince’s song. Probably better you didn’t, legal reasons and all. It was a good of you to go back and add the correction piece in the middle (although it does sound like someone lets a fart rip about 1/2 way through it. LOL) of the video. It helps folks like me keep things straight. And I will echo those folks who also say that it is good to show your mistakes (and the out-takes) in the video. Keep up the good work. I’m definitely adding your site to my favorites list.
Mark,
I really like watching your videos, but I wanted to point out that you were particular to show that you put on your respirator when you made your first cut. However when you made your test cuts setting up your jig I noticed that you were not wearing it. Care to explain?
Hey Grant. Is that something that really requires explanation?? My guess would be that I either forgot or I was just in a rush. In general, I recommend wearing a respirator anytime you are cutting or sanding wood.
Maybe his producer should remind him to wear his respirator? Or his camera man, lighting guy, director, video editor or that guy who holds his cue cards?
I guess we can give him a little credit for pulling it all off as well as he does. I’m just glad he still inspired to keep putting out these videos.
I want to ditto the comments of Hank and others and encourage you to leave the video alone. Your example of how distractions can cause errors, well there you go. I tell my students that I make my biggest mistakes when I’m in a hurry or tired. If you edit it all to death people get the wrong idea about how much time it takes to actually make this happen.
Unfortunately for me I have one of those blue router jigs still in the box that I bought on sale to do cabinet drawers for our new kitchen. I’m going to give it a go, if it’s too frustrating I’m heading back to my standard rabbeted and pinned drawer joints like you showed on your first example. They are very strong, look good and easy to make.
Steve
I just learned about the WoodWhisperer site from a friend the other day. The intro for this episode is great. I think your mistake, along with the inserted “corrective,” has far greater teaching value than a cleaned up, perfected “studio cut.” You can see exactly where and how you got things reversed. That alone makes it a keeper. I remember telling an experience woodworker of a similar mistake. His reply was, “You never learn anything by getting it right. Now you’ll never do that again.” Your video goof will imprint the difference between pin and tail boards much more deeply than you intended and will remind me to mind my pins and tails along with my “i”s and “o”s. Keep up the good work, and don’t let the armchair cybercritics discourage you. Awesome video!
Wonderful episode!!! I just recently completed a “poker box” after seeing this and used through dovetails on it. The piece came out quite nice, I used cherry for the front & back and walnut for the sides. The colors of the wood really looked nice using the dovetails. Thanks!!
Marc,
Great episode. You have inspired me to upgrade from my Rockler to a Leigh jig. I especially like the pink feather boa in the background. I imagine this keeps the dust out of your shirt. Also, I knew I liked your style, but now I am convinced after I saw you drink Fat Tire beer!
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